government spending and obamacare as well. cal, you were not impressed with what he had to say there? >> well, i was impressed by what he had to say, i just think it's the wrong venue to say it. that's why going to church and giving a book report. that's not why you go. i've been a part of this for 40 years and speakers are supposed to talk about a higher king and a different kingdom not lecture a president on his policies and would have been just as inappropriate if he had praised the president or a republican president criticized by a democrat. that's not the format. >> jon: on cnn candy crowly had a panel discussion and asked her panelists if they were offended by the remarks by dr. carson. >> first of all, i agree with what he said and cal writing a gutsy column and kirsten tweeting on it. it's an inappropriate venue and i don't know if cnn, but a damaging to the wonderful partisan, national prayer breakfast everyone should feel welcome to and not think that they're going to get a political lecture, enough of those in wash